Ups and downs of consumer broadband

Sharing videos and pictures across the Internet should be a snap for Ron Gonzalez and his five siblings, who are scattered across California, Arizona and Colorado. Unfortunately, it's not.

Instead of posting photos and video of his 7-year-old son directly to a Web site, Gonzalez saves them to DVDs and sends them by mail.

"With the 256-kilobits-per-second upload I get with my service, it would take all day to upload my pictures and video," he said. "We all chat using IM (instant messaging). But forget about sending pictures--it takes too long."

Gonzalez is one of millions of Americans sharing content over the Net. And he is one of a growing number of people who complain that their broadband service isn't providing enough upload capacity for them to send rich content over their connections. While downloading music from iTunes or pictures from Snapfish takes only seconds, posting pictures to a Web site or sending video clips to loved ones can be like watching paint dry.

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Upload speeds for consumer broadband have historically been much slower than download speeds, prompting some broadband users to complain that upload capacities haven't kept pace with their needs.

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Broadband providers say current demand for faster upload capacity isn't significant. But there are indications that could change in the near future, especially as more and more mainstream customers use the Internet to send large files such as photos and videos.

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Over the past year, cable and DSL broadband providers alike have touted their increased download speeds, but little has been made of upload speeds. Two providers, Verizon Communications and Cablevision, do offer relatively fast upload services in many of their markets--and upload speeds elsewhere have increased modestly over time--but some users complain that the speeds still haven't kept pace with their needs.

Analysts and broadband providers argue that this is only a small subset of their customer base and that most users are satisfied with the upload speeds offered.

"We don't receive complaints from customers of our standard service when it comes to upload speeds," said Glenn Lock, data service product manager for Adelphia. "Gaming customers who want the biggest and best service are demanding higher speeds, but they tend to be ahead of the mainstream curve."

Gamers tend to be early technology adopters who are typically willing to pay a premium for their high-speed service, he added. As a result, broadband providers have created special packages to cater to them.

Still, there is evidence that demand for faster upload speeds will continue to grow, in large part because it is starting to come from more mainstream broadband users.

"We are starting to see even our average customers wanting higher upload speeds," said Sharon Cohen-Hagar, a spokeswoman for Verizon. "They're finding these higher speeds an advantage for everyday use, especially things like sending photos and videos to family and friends."

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As more people subscribe to broadband services, their use of the Internet is changing, say researchers with the Pew Internet and American Life Project. There's growing evidence that people are using the Internet more interactively to swap and share files that include rich forms of media such as music, video and photos. In a May 2005 Pew Internet survey, 27 percent of Internet users said they have shared files stored on their computers' hard drive.

"I think that's a compelling indicator that people are getting more active in sharing files," said John Horrigan, director of research at the Pew Internet and American Life Project. "I believe this trend will continue to grow as more people get broadband. One they have that connection, they want to start doing more things with it."

Broadband has also become a vital tool for a growing number of telecommuters. Download speeds that surpass the 1.5mbps speeds offered with traditional leased access lines called T1 connections (which are used in many offices), make it simple for workers to download files from headquarters while they're at home.

But unlike T1 lines, which are symmetrical, meaning they provide the same speeds for downloads that they provide for uploads, broadband connections are asymmetrical, with download speeds typically far higher than those for uploading. This means that uploading files back onto the company's server can be grueling.

"When I'm trying to send large files for work over the company's VPN (virtual private network), upload speeds are important," said Sushim Mandal, an Intel engineer outside of Portland, Ore., and a Comcast customer. "The download and upload speeds don't have to be symmetrical, but I'd like to see uploads of higher than 2mbps."

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Bull pucky...
by August 1, 2005 4:33 AM PDT
The ISPs are well aware the faster upload speeds
are at the top of user's wish list. The issue is
that they simply don't want to provide it.

Read the terms of service for your broadband and
you'll see that just about anything
"upload-heavy", such as serving videos of your
kids off your home PC, is strictly forbidden. Not
that you can't get away with it, just that they
promise to terminate your service if they do.

Want to host a newsletter for your knotting
circle on your home PC -- verboten. Verizon goes
so far as blocking inbound port 80 so you won't
be tempted to run a web-server on your home PC.

The reasons are varied. The Verizon rep I spoke
to said that the rule against running "server
applications" like web servers, game servers, or
remote desktop apps was because 85% of their
customers use Windows and they have had security
issues in the past with Windos machines. Comcast
(who I have an account with) claims that too much
upload capacity would tempt their cutomers to
engage in questionable activities (like
distributing family photos and blogging, no
doubt).

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Symmetrical Services Will RUle
by jacomo August 1, 2005 6:20 AM PDT
The first players to the party will rule their competitive space. Symmetry is a GOOD thing.
Not sure I agree that it is to expensive to provide a symmetrical service in DSL world. It's the net round trip that matters to the DSLAM connection to the COre and the Internet. If we increase this link from let's say a DS-3 to a OC-3 we can handle most symmetrical services within real 10-12K of DSLAM. Cost will also be reduced as networks upgrade from ATM to IP/Ethernet and GigE is the link to the Core & Internet.
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The "real" vision of the Net
by August 1, 2005 6:50 AM PDT
As far as I am concered, the internet will just
be another television and radio medium without
high upload speeds. If the promise of Full
Screen HDTV Video conferencing (6mbps up - 6mbps
down) is ever to be reached we as consumers must
demand higher upload speeds.

The problem lies in the infrastructure. The
only guys who are ready for this is Verizon with
their FTTP connections. Sometimes coming into
the market late gives you the ability to analyze
problems of history and come out on top.

Currently the Cable Hybrid Fiber/Coax networks
can't compete because of their Modem
implementation technologies. Shared nodes
etc... I see Fiber as the only way to get what
you want. Now if only the Service providers
would allow Home users to run their own Web
Services such as a web site etc... That's my
complaint right now. Having to pay a hosting
provider to run my hobby web site is my only
option right now. That's when everything will
change.
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Give the people what they want!
by August 1, 2005 7:06 AM PDT
Upload speeds that are anything less than 1Mbps is an insult to the consumer. How long have we had Netmeeting and other free video confrencing apps? How long have web cams been available for under 50$? Well forget being able to live in the 21st century, no video confrencing will be happening without better upload speeds.
We're so close but yet so far. I hope to live to see the day. Maybe flying cars will come out first...oh wait the auto manufacturers don't listen to their customers either.
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upload speeds!!!!
by August 1, 2005 7:53 AM PDT
services like video.google.com will change the need for better upload speeds
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Definitely a must
by bjglavin August 1, 2005 7:57 AM PDT
the main reason I jumped onto Verizon's FIOS program when I normally would have waited to see how it panned out was that it offers the uploads - 2Mbs - which I was desparate for.

Most of these ISPs would rather offer faster downloads that they know people won't/can't use than more useful upload speed.
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They say people don't want it - so they don't give it
by zizzybaloobah August 1, 2005 8:56 AM PDT
Yet I have probably 3 dozen (or more) cable channels I don't want (with more on the way!), but I can't have faster uploads cuz nobody wants them? Go figure! Comcast commercials like to tout things like video email, but never mention that it will likely be one-way, and only if the sender *isn't* using Comcast!
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Broadband could improve, but...
by PCCRomeo August 1, 2005 9:51 AM PDT
It's still better than dial-up. I'd rather pay almost 4 times as much as I was for dial-up (I'm comaring it to PeoplePC) and not have to wait to connect and not wait 30 minutes for a song to download. Give it time, it'll quickly begin to improve...
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Always thought it was sneaky of comast...
by wazzledoozle August 1, 2005 10:43 AM PDT
To offer 6 mb/s downstream and only 384 kb/s upstream.
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Cablevision is Full of SH__
by ballssalty August 1, 2005 11:23 AM PDT
Sure they offer 1 mbs upload. But if you use it they cap you down to dial-up speeds and don't warn you when they do or even post what gets you capped. The only way you find out is one day you can upload fast, then the next time you're stuck at 28.8 upload speed.
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