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The Provoq--the first concept car to get its premiere at CES--runs on a hydrogen fuel cell and a lithium ion battery, according to GM CEO Rick Wagoner, who unveiled the car during a keynote speech Tuesday at the Consumer Electronics Show here. The car primarily runs on hydrogen, but uses the battery for peak power and storing electricity to extend the range. (The battery gets recharged from a wall socket.)
It is expected to get 300 miles on a tank of hydrogen, and the fuel cell--GM's fifth generation of fuel cells--is half the size of the last one, which increases internal room and storage. On the roof sits a solar panel for running the car's electronics.
To increase aerodynamics, shutters automatically cover up the air vents on the grill at high speeds.
"It will go up to 100 miles an hour and from zero to 60 in 8.5 seconds," Wagoner said.
The idea behind the Provoq is to extend some of the eco-friendly features GM has tinkered with in other concept cars into a luxury car. A shrinking supply of fossil fuels, environmental concerns, and rising demand for cars in emerging nations demand it. Global sales of cars hit 70 million units in 2007 and will grow to 85 million in five years.
Critics have complained that GM concentrates too much on gas guzzlers, while investors have noted that Toyota has grown at GM's expense with its efficient cars.
By 2012, half of the company's cars coming off the production line will be capable of running on either gas or E85, which contains 85 percent ethanol, Wagoner said.
"The automotive industry can no longer almost exclusively rely on oil to supply the world's transportation requirements," he said.
Still, Wagoner admitted in his speech and a meeting with reporters before the speech that finding ethanol now isn't easy. Only around 1,400 stations in the U.S. sell E85, while there are about 170,000 stations that sell gas in the country. GM will have eight types of hybrid cars on the road by the end of the year.
Nonetheless, GM has yet to release some of its fancier concepts such as a plug-in hybrid, and several years ago it killed an all-electric car, the EV1.
CES 2008 is here
the massive electronics show.
Wagoner also showed off the Chevy Volt, which GM hopes to roll out in 2010. The Volt runs on batteries that are recharged by a motor that runs on ethanol or gas.
"It has been remarkably difficult" to get ethanol pumps installed, he said during the reporter briefing. "We've been doing more work than I thought we would need to."
The U.S. will likely over time have to switch from corn-based ethanol to cellulosic ethanol made from grasses and wood chips. A lot of research will have to be performed on lithium ion batteries too, he added.
Electronics will also play an increasingly important role in car safety. GM's Onstar service, for instance, will get a new feature called Stolen Vehicle Slowdown, which slows down a car that's been reported stolen.
Onstar already contains a feature that lets police track a car reported stolen with the onboard GPS system. Many times, however, police find the car thieves in the car. Rather than surrender, thieves often try to escape. In a given year, police conduct approximately 30,000 chases that result in 300 deaths.
With Stolen Vehicle Slowdown, after the stolen car is started, police can send a signal that will slow it to a stop. While slowing, a cheery automated voice begins to converse with the thieves.
"This vehicle is being slowed at the request of a law enforcement agency," the voice states. "Please remain inside the vehicle."
A lane departure system, which tells you when you are veering out of your lane, was recently installed in some 2008 Cadillacs.
In the future, GM will try to incorporate sensors and transponders in cars that will communicate with other cars and warn of traffic jams and potentially dangerous situations. Cars will slow automatically if the danger of an accident, unknown to the driver, has become imminent.
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- Fuel cell cost?
- Exactly how much will a fuel cell with a range of 300 miles cost? As in, will it have a cost-per-mile comparable to gasoline? Or is GM betting that a luxury car such as this will attract customers willing to pay a premium for eco-friendliness?
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- I believe it when I can buy one
- I believe it when I can buy one. Until then, I also have a spacecraft that is powered by the magnetic field of the earth, so the cost of fuel is zero. When are these companies going to have a product??? 2008 cars are a COMPLETE JOKE. DONT BUY ANY OF THEM. Wait for companies to finally put green cars on the road. Meanwhile I am taking orders from my spacecraft.
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- How kill the electric car? GM
- Isnt this the company that killed the electric car?
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- Too little, too late! GM makes ugly cars...
- except for the corvette. Cadillacs have to be one of the most ugliest vehicles ever designed and built. This is a car Americans should NOT be proud of and why GM lost an incredible market share over the past 20 years. Their designers absolutely live in the stone age. They could learn a thing or two from the Germans and Japanese on how to build an attractive and reliable vehicle.
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- Volt skeptics are just dumb people
- Having watched the development of the Volt via www.gm-volt.com, a non-official website with previously unimaginable access to a GM development project, I have to laugh at the ignorance of those fools who really believe that there's a chance the Volt won't appear. Whether it makes its target launch date goal of late 2010, which GM has never "guaranteed" (as if anybody can guarantee the occurance of any event 3 years down the road!!) is of no matter. Any delay will be short unless there is some really unexpected development during battery testing that shows that the packs will not meet GM's lifespan requirement of at least 10 years. Any other delay will be the same as thsoe that frequently occur. I notice that Tesla has delayed their non-mass produced roadster for over 6 months. It is already several months overdue. It will fail. It has sold barely 650 cars in a year and a half and has tapped out its Hollywood millionaire customer base. The Fisker 2+2 sports car plug-in being debuted at this week's auto show is cheaper, is a practical car that is a legitimate alternative to a gasoline powered car, replicates the architecture of the Chevy Volt, looks better, runs faster and is a lot cheaper than the Tesla. Tesla has zero chances of competeting successfully against such a car. And with the Tesla, it's another $25,0000 battery pack every five years, whether you drive the car 100 miles or 100,000 miles. I see that GM is grabbing all the honors this year at the show - 4 of the top 6 cars are from GM. None are from Toyota, which is very much the dysfunctional automaker these days. Looks like Toyota could stand an infusion of younger management - what's still there is on life-support.
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- recycling is the key
- Fuel efficiency in automobiles is of course important to our survival as a species, and it is very encouraging that GM is pursuing this as aggressively as it has decided to, however Earth simply cannot support year on year growth in manufacturing and consumerism without a revolutionary commitment to recycling and reducing both manufacturing and consumption-- consider "The Great Pacific Garbage Patch".
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- Are you crazy???
- Hydrogen + fuel cell makes perfect sense. Hydrogen is just a battery Solar(or|and wind) + water = hydrogen hydrogen + fuel cell = electricity Nasa is being doing it from their first moon mission and there are a lot of DIY that have done it. Please STOP MAKING HYDROGEN SOUND LIUKE THE MOST DIFFICULT THING TO DO. oil is dirty , gas engines are inefficient. The only reason we use gas is because a lot of people with money want us to use gas. The only thing keep new tech in the labs is ignorant people like you.
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- Using the "Wrong Technologies"
- Nikola Tesla the Greatest Inventor of the last century had invented the Technologies to run cars & power stations without fuel one Century ago and these technologies might still be classified top secret immediately after his death. It is time to resurrect Nikola Tesla's life-works to produce electrical power without fuel and sharing them as it was intended by the Greatest Inventor himself. Stanley Meyer had invented the Technology to turn Water into unlimited amount of fuel for making Unlimited Power Supply and to run cars and all internal combustion engines with HHO "on demand basis only" and so no storage of the HHO gases is required as it is safer & cheaper to store water instead, but unfortunately he was murdered. He had about more than 40 patents in this Technology. No one Car/Technology Company has pursued this technology further by buying up his technology and put them to good use to save our this planet Earth from Global Warming causing adversed climatic changes and disasters and hardship owing to unlimited and unrestrained use of Fossil Oils and Fuels, thus releasing & emitting enormous quantities of green house gases into the atmosphere. I think some company like Google should buy this Patented Technologies from Stanley Meyer's family and make this open source technology for the world to improve on and make good use of this Technology to save our world call Planet Earth. Also those Zero Fuel Technologies invented by Nikola Tesla should be declassified and resurrected by the next President of USA to run cars and power-stations to save our Planet Earth from destruction and doom owing to unlimited and unrestrained use of Fossil Oils and Fuels for the whole of last Century. Our World the planet earth must be saved from the exploits of greed of the vested self interests of the fossil oil & fuels producers that pumped the unlimited amount of Greenhouse gases into our common atmosphere for the last century.
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- Fuel cells waste of time - - plug in hybrids the way to go
- Hydrogen fuels cells cost a fortune, require a new fuel delivery infrastructure, use way too much platinum and using renewables like solar and wind to make hydrogen is way too inefficient. Plug in hybrids work TODAY, are more efficient and allow us to use renewables to power our cars. Plus with vehicle to grid, we can solve the intermittent nature of renewables, backing up the power grid with batteries for when the wind doesn't blow or the sun doesn't shine. Once prices come down, charging stations are ubiqitous and batteries become better and cheaper, move from plug in hybrids to full electric vehicles. So why this big push towards hydrogen by people like President Bush? Because, hydrogen won't be made from renewables, it will be made from coal, natural gas, oil, etc. It's a way of pretending to be "green" while making sure the same corporations that profit today profit tomorrow.
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- Hydrogen fuel cells will be the next best thing--in 50 years. And plug in hybrids are a band aid solution. California, better start stocking up on candles now! Bio-fuels (cellulosic ethanol and algae biodiesel) offer this countries only means of sustainable energy. The environmental impact of a fuel that can be engineered like ethanol can be minimized. Ethanol burns far cleaner than gas, and the tecnological advances that will allow 100% ethanol to be used as a fuel in all climates are far closer than the solutions to any of the other choices.
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